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Which Bike?
March 1, 2012
1:45 pm
Moobin1
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Hi there,

 

In the next few months I will be investing in a new bike but the more I check around and research the more confused I get. I do all my riding in Bangkok and bordering provices so there are no hills to speak of. I love racing in the traffic and also sedately pedalling in the burbs taking in the views, so I need something that is quick and highly manoeuvrable, while at the same time comfortable. My budget cap is Baht 35k so it gives me quite a bit of choice, but I would be happy with something much cheaper if it is up the the task.

 

Obviously, with the way I use the bike, I need some gears but the hybrids (which I believe would be suitable for me) seem to be really over geared. 24 or 27 gears.  So I would not be using the lower gears at all. Should I overlook this issue as unimportant? It seems a waste. Also, 99 percent of my riding will be on the road, but as you know Bangkok's roads are not exactly smooth. Drain covers, cracks and holes all over the place. So I need something sturdy but doubt  I would need mtb type suspension. Hence the interest in hybrids. 

 

I really like the 2012 Giant Seek 1, and am also interested in the 2011 Trek 7.3 (a large price difference) but again, do I really need all that many gears? Apart from a fixed gear bike, however, what other options are there available in Bangkok for a more reasonably geared hybrid that is also tough and can take a bit of banging about.

 

Any suggestions and pointers would be greatly appreciated.   

 

Moobin

March 2, 2012
12:04 pm
Dayne
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Not sure of the price, but if what your looking for is mostly for city riding, maybe check out the district 9 from trek. I imagine it would be under the 35k limit, and it has limited gearing. If I were picking a fun around the city bike (I ride BKK regularly, shooting through traffic is my idea of a good time) this might be it. Though I would definatly want disk breaks as I have had to make very sudden stops as the motor bike in front of me suddenly stops or two cars are closer then I thought. Disk breaks (hydraulic) are worth whatever extra weight they have. I use a 4300 disk BTW and find that having some suspension is nice when hitting the badly paved streets. I do wish my bike was lighter though, and my low end front suspension is very heavy. With a 35K budget you can get a very nice bike. 

 

http://www.trekbikes.com/int/en/bikes/town/urban_utility/district/9th_district/#/int/en/model/features?url=int/en/bikes/town/urban_utility/district/9th_district

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March 2, 2012
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Here is another I would be very interested in if I had that budget for a bike. 

http://www.trekbikes.com/int/en/bikes/town/dual_sport/ds_series/8_5_ds/ 

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March 2, 2012
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Dayne
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Normal is different everywhere. There is no normal. Everything is normal. 
March 5, 2012
11:50 am
Moobin1
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That 9th District looks very, very interesting. I had never even considered it before. It looks like it certainly would fit all my needs and not be over geared to boot. Not so sure about the 8.5 though. I really want to keep away from suspension if possible.

 

Many thanks for your suggestions Dayne. Much appreciated.

 

PS I just checked the local Trek distributor's website and it does not look like they stock the 9th district.

March 5, 2012
2:24 pm
Dayne
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True, but I think you can still order it from the store. I assume you checked ProBike. Due to poor road conditions, mountain bikes were the largest selling bikes for a long time. Road bikes are catching on more now and if enough people show interest they may start stocking more. But they only have so much room. 

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March 10, 2012
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AFAIK, distributors of mass market brands here accept custom orders but only provided they fill a whole container lot which means it could take half a year for that to happen.
A few shops with above-average service could get what you want within 4-6 weeks but at 40% premium over US retail price.
Personal imports for complete bikes is subject to 37+% (30% import 7% VAT) on top of bike + shipping.
Since you have a clearly defined budget, it's probably best you physically shop around as most distributors' websites/facebook pages are seldom updated.
In this way, you really can't narrow down your choices to your "dream" bikes but whatever is in stock (and size really matters if you're very large or very small).
In a couple of hours you can browse 5 big shops downtown Bangkok (Bikezone, Probike, Sportbicycles, TCA, Cannondale) – which already cover brands like Trek, Specialized, Colnago, Marin, Bianchi and Jamis – and see what are "in store" for you and if there are models and sizes you are ok with, just go back to that shop and bargain it. 
Still within urban Bangkok is Worldbike with some Giant hybrids.

If there's still no hybrid you really like in stock then you might settle for a hardtail then swap for more suitable tyres or if you allow for some budget – swap the suspension forks for much lighter rigid and use 2.0+ wide MTB tyres as "suspension".

Don't worry too much about excesses of too many gears on the bikes, choices here aren't too many with hybrids.

IMO, as a fellow Bangkokian commuter and occasional leisure rider, MTBs in the sub-20k is fine and use the remaining 15k for helmet, shoes, gloves, bar ends, tyres, lights, rack, pannier/ruck sack and may be a rigid fork to shave 1.5kg off the front end.

Cheers ;-)

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Discs or dusk
March 15, 2012
3:14 pm
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Thanks for the input bkkbiker. I have been to all the shops you mention. Worldbike offered to import a bike which they did not normally stock for no extra charge. However, there would have been a 45 day wait. BTW I capped my bike budget at 35k so I would still have some money left for most of the gear you mention except bike shoes.

 

As to service, I have been at the receiving end of both good and non-existing service from some of the local bike shops. Worldbike (Udomsuk) were exceedingly helpful and friendly, but another well known shop in the center of town offered no service at all and totally ignored me, even though I asked for assistance. The security guard at the latter was very nice though, smiling while holding the door for me on the way out. LaughI must say that this shop was very busy when I visited so perhaps they had bigger sales to make. 

March 15, 2012
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bkkbiker
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Glad you found what you wanted so just go for it!
Meaning if you order one now, you'll get by the starting of the rainy season…. oops

I think I know which "downtown" shop you meant and yeah, during the weekend it could be as busy as a 7eleven and service can be wanting.

Happy biking :-) 

Discs or dusk
March 22, 2012
3:56 pm
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Actually, I haven't got anything yet. I did not order the bike they offered to import. I am still searching. Hopefully, once I get a couple more things done around my new house in the next two months, I will be able splash out. The Seek 1 is still top of the list but I am still looking at other possibilities. 

September 4, 2012
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Still looking. Worldbike does not have my size in 2012 stock and are unwilling to import. They have told me to wait until the 2013 models come out which should be in the next month or so. The money is there, it wants to burn a hole in my pocket but nothing to buy with it.

 

I just came across another nice looking bike the Scott Sub 20 but haven't checked whether they have my size or not. It seems that none of the shops I have visited in the past few months have much in the larger sizes, and one shop owner said there wasn't the market as the average Thai has much shorter legs than westerners. He offered to import but said it would be a 3 or 4 months wait.  This seems to support bkkbiker's comments. Cry

 

I don't want to end up buying a bike that I really am not 100 percent interested in, but it looks that I may have to if the new Giants don't come out soon. I am fed up with waiting.

September 6, 2012
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Dayne said:

Here is another I would be very interested in if I had that budget for a bike. 

http://www.trekbikes.com/int/en/bikes/town/dual_sport/ds_series/8_5_ds/ 

Hi Dayne,

 

With all due respect the District 9 is a terrible bike for Thailand and BKK. I have one and I love it! Its an awesome bike with great style and attention to detail. The Gates Carbon Drive belt is super smooth and quiet also resistant to rust and contamination. Thats the good.

 

For riding in BKK the tires are too narrow and to high pressure for a comfortable ride on BKK bumpy streets. Also the bike geometry although layed back with straight bars still puts you forward over the front wheel which is a great launching point over the front of the bike should you stop suddenly or run into pothole or street dogs. 

 

Don't get me wrong the district is a great bike just not for Thailand. I will be back with more suggestions for you soon.

September 6, 2012
10:52 pm
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Hi there Bones. I will be doing most of my riding in BKK and the state of the roads is a concern. As such I was looking at hybrids rather than road bikes. People have suggested mountain bikes but with street tyres. I have looked, but I am not really convinced that I need front suspension. I still rather like the Giant Seek 1, and the Scott Sub 20 looks interesting. I also looked at the Canondale Bad Boy (Fatty Rigid fork) – I forget the model. The Bad Boy was quite a bit more expensive than the Seek but with lower specs. I understand the frame is supposed to be something special though. I like the idea of an angled crossbar like an MTB as riding in a city like BKK you are stopping and starting all the time. It therefore seems more practical.

The Seek seems pretty rugged but I have been told that Chro-Mo is more forgiving on bad roads than aluminium alloys which are quite stiff, the Seeking being alu-alloy. The more I read the more confused I get.

Still open to suggestions. 

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